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	<description>A Writer, Game Designer, and Geek on Games, Design, Media, and Politics.</description>
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		<title>By: sebmojo</title>
		<link>http://www.squaremans.com/?p=21&#038;cpage=1#comment-14875</link>
		<dc:creator>sebmojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raemann I think the Alan Lee pictures of Gandalf were the intended reference point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raemann I think the Alan Lee pictures of Gandalf were the intended reference point.</p>
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		<title>By: Raemann</title>
		<link>http://www.squaremans.com/?p=21&#038;cpage=1#comment-4806</link>
		<dc:creator>Raemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps it is more circular than you at first suggested. Gandalf does not simply look like Ian McKellan rather Ian was made to look like David Wenzel&#039;s Gandalf from the Illistrated edition of the hobbit (1989 Ballantine). Which he in turn derived much in the way which you mentioned concerning the painting or in the reading of the Star Trek novels concerning Capt. Kirk. Which Kirk was in fact derived from Horatio Hornblower so to me Captain Kirk looked like Gregory Peck. Circular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps it is more circular than you at first suggested. Gandalf does not simply look like Ian McKellan rather Ian was made to look like David Wenzel&#8217;s Gandalf from the Illistrated edition of the hobbit (1989 Ballantine). Which he in turn derived much in the way which you mentioned concerning the painting or in the reading of the Star Trek novels concerning Capt. Kirk. Which Kirk was in fact derived from Horatio Hornblower so to me Captain Kirk looked like Gregory Peck. Circular.</p>
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		<title>By: Storm</title>
		<link>http://www.squaremans.com/?p=21&#038;cpage=1#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>Storm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 09:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I swallowed the books at the age of 11 within two days. It took me another day to work me through the hobbit a week later. All the rest of the middle-earth library took about a year to finish. Since I&#039;m a german native I didn&#039;t have the chance to read much of this stuff in german because things like the &quot;History of ME&quot; have never been translated. But by reading them in english I learned much from them - not only the language itself but it&#039;s flavour and, in the end, Prof. Tolkiens love for languages as a whole.Nevertheless I always hoped someone would make a movie of it - just for all the bad fantasy movies out there (I love Conan nonetheless ;) ).Then Peter Jackson came. I love and hate the movies. I love them for beeing some of the greatest fantasy movies ever made. I hate them for not beeing even close to what I would think to be a proper representation of the books. But that&#039;s just my humble opinion. They are flawed in so many things.What I really regret is the fact that DEC didn&#039;t have a chance to make full use of this rich background. ICE did a great job back in the days and I&#039;m sure they would have pleased us with tons of more fine books.The staff at DEC did the best they could and created some really awesome books - but they neither reached the quality of LUG Trek nor of MERP. I always hoped they would have sliped to much information of non-licensed material into their game so Tolkien Estate could revoke the license - probably even giving it back again to DEC under the sole control of Cristopher.Well - sometimes you can pray as much as you want. God just won&#039;t listen. Nevertheless thank you very much for all your hard work at DEC! I loved your books.And though the pictures of the LotR in my mind are still only influenced of the calendars and the books I&#039;m looking forward to the hobbit movie...and Smaug. Though I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll be disapointed again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I swallowed the books at the age of 11 within two days. It took me another day to work me through the hobbit a week later. All the rest of the middle-earth library took about a year to finish. Since I&#8217;m a german native I didn&#8217;t have the chance to read much of this stuff in german because things like the &quot;History of ME&quot; have never been translated. But by reading them in english I learned much from them &#8211; not only the language itself but it&#8217;s flavour and, in the end, Prof. Tolkiens love for languages as a whole.Nevertheless I always hoped someone would make a movie of it &#8211; just for all the bad fantasy movies out there (I love Conan nonetheless <img src='http://www.squaremans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ).Then Peter Jackson came. I love and hate the movies. I love them for beeing some of the greatest fantasy movies ever made. I hate them for not beeing even close to what I would think to be a proper representation of the books. But that&#8217;s just my humble opinion. They are flawed in so many things.What I really regret is the fact that DEC didn&#8217;t have a chance to make full use of this rich background. ICE did a great job back in the days and I&#8217;m sure they would have pleased us with tons of more fine books.The staff at DEC did the best they could and created some really awesome books &#8211; but they neither reached the quality of LUG Trek nor of MERP. I always hoped they would have sliped to much information of non-licensed material into their game so Tolkien Estate could revoke the license &#8211; probably even giving it back again to DEC under the sole control of Cristopher.Well &#8211; sometimes you can pray as much as you want. God just won&#8217;t listen. Nevertheless thank you very much for all your hard work at DEC! I loved your books.And though the pictures of the LotR in my mind are still only influenced of the calendars and the books I&#8217;m looking forward to the hobbit movie&#8230;and Smaug. Though I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll be disapointed again.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://www.squaremans.com/?p=21&#038;cpage=1#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 01:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not watched the movies since I saw them in the theaters. This is, I think, largely because I saw each one three or four times, often in a 24 hour period the day it came out.

The last time I saw the last one it was at an AFI screening with Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh, Phillippa Boyens, Barrie Osborne and the head guy at New Line. Even though the QA was very interesting, this was the third or fourth time I&#039;d seen it and by the end my brains were dribbling out my ears.

I didn&#039;t *want* to watch them multiple times, I just had lots of friends who wanted to see it with me and I wanted to see it with them.  I think those movies killed my decades-long tradition of seeing movies at midnight showings the day before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not watched the movies since I saw them in the theaters. This is, I think, largely because I saw each one three or four times, often in a 24 hour period the day it came out.</p>
<p>The last time I saw the last one it was at an AFI screening with Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh, Phillippa Boyens, Barrie Osborne and the head guy at New Line. Even though the QA was very interesting, this was the third or fourth time I&#8217;d seen it and by the end my brains were dribbling out my ears.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t *want* to watch them multiple times, I just had lots of friends who wanted to see it with me and I wanted to see it with them.  I think those movies killed my decades-long tradition of seeing movies at midnight showings the day before.</p>
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		<title>By: trollsmyth</title>
		<link>http://www.squaremans.com/?p=21&#038;cpage=1#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>trollsmyth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the movies, but they ain&#039;t the books.  They will, for me, forever be Peter Jackson&#039;s Lord of the Rings, which is damned good, and a fun ride, and I keep poppin&#039; &#039;em into the DVD player.  Christopher Lee is awesome, but his Sauroman is an utter wimp, a pale reflection of Tolkien&#039;s, who actually thought to &quot;save&quot; Middle Earth with bigger, meaner orcs.  As dark as the movies get, they never even touch the full despair of the Long Retreat.  I&#039;ll always have a fond spot in my heart for what Jackson has given us fans of fantasy, but cinema isn&#039;t the storytelling dynamite that novels are. 

As for titles that will nab Google&#039;s attention, at least a good quarter of Trollsmyth: the Blog&#039;s traffic is derived from one post entitled &quot;Succubus Porn&quot;.  Which doesn&#039;t disturb me nearly so much as the trickle of traffic I derive from one titled &quot;Walrus Porn&quot;.

- Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the movies, but they ain&#8217;t the books.  They will, for me, forever be Peter Jackson&#8217;s Lord of the Rings, which is damned good, and a fun ride, and I keep poppin&#8217; &#8216;em into the DVD player.  Christopher Lee is awesome, but his Sauroman is an utter wimp, a pale reflection of Tolkien&#8217;s, who actually thought to &#8220;save&#8221; Middle Earth with bigger, meaner orcs.  As dark as the movies get, they never even touch the full despair of the Long Retreat.  I&#8217;ll always have a fond spot in my heart for what Jackson has given us fans of fantasy, but cinema isn&#8217;t the storytelling dynamite that novels are. </p>
<p>As for titles that will nab Google&#8217;s attention, at least a good quarter of Trollsmyth: the Blog&#8217;s traffic is derived from one post entitled &#8220;Succubus Porn&#8221;.  Which doesn&#8217;t disturb me nearly so much as the trickle of traffic I derive from one titled &#8220;Walrus Porn&#8221;.</p>
<p>- Brian</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://www.squaremans.com/?p=21&#038;cpage=1#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 09:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Detailed character descriptions are not Cook&#039;s strength. I have a feeling of Croaker and Murgen and The Lady and One Eye more than any actual mental picture of what they look like. 

I often read books and never form explicit notions of what the characters faces look like. When I write, I tend to &quot;cast&quot; the characters as known actors so I can cheat and describe that actor&#039;s face in detail, and avoid creating it myself.

I sometimes wonder what it must like to be an artist and wonder whether they DO created detailed versions of otherwise vaguely described characters, or whether the act of drawing the picture for the first time IS the act of taking the vague collection of feelings and impressions and carving a face out of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Detailed character descriptions are not Cook&#8217;s strength. I have a feeling of Croaker and Murgen and The Lady and One Eye more than any actual mental picture of what they look like. </p>
<p>I often read books and never form explicit notions of what the characters faces look like. When I write, I tend to &#8220;cast&#8221; the characters as known actors so I can cheat and describe that actor&#8217;s face in detail, and avoid creating it myself.</p>
<p>I sometimes wonder what it must like to be an artist and wonder whether they DO created detailed versions of otherwise vaguely described characters, or whether the act of drawing the picture for the first time IS the act of taking the vague collection of feelings and impressions and carving a face out of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Octal40</title>
		<link>http://www.squaremans.com/?p=21&#038;cpage=1#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>Octal40</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Gandalf wears a gray hat, has a gray robe, is taller than Aragorn, has large muscled arms, ... ... and has no skin. In trying to remember what my 4th grade self thought of Gandalf, I tried to imagine how wrinkly his skin is and I don&#039;t think I ever even  &lt;i&gt;considered&lt;/i&gt; giving him skin in my mental picture. It&#039;s not that I can see some sort of undead version of Gandalf. Imagine if Gandalf were standing at the periphery of your vision so that all you could see was his hat and beard protruding into your line of sight. He has skin. You know he does. You also know he has a friendly smile. But you can&#039;t see it right now. It&#039;s like that. I find it really odd that I never considered it. Take the Lady. She&#039;s only a face to me. No hair, no hood, no body. I know it&#039;s there. I&#039;m sure it&#039;s exquisite. But I never bothered to imagine what it could be. I recently picked up a book that is a collection of all three books of the north and it has a picture of her on it. It looks nothing like her. (Same thing with who I think is supposed to be Croaker and I have no idea who that other dude is.) 

I&#039;m sure it&#039;s actually quite normal for people to focus their imagination on different, specific qualities in the characters they read about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Gandalf wears a gray hat, has a gray robe, is taller than Aragorn, has large muscled arms, &#8230; &#8230; and has no skin. In trying to remember what my 4th grade self thought of Gandalf, I tried to imagine how wrinkly his skin is and I don&#8217;t think I ever even  <i>considered</i> giving him skin in my mental picture. It&#8217;s not that I can see some sort of undead version of Gandalf. Imagine if Gandalf were standing at the periphery of your vision so that all you could see was his hat and beard protruding into your line of sight. He has skin. You know he does. You also know he has a friendly smile. But you can&#8217;t see it right now. It&#8217;s like that. I find it really odd that I never considered it. Take the Lady. She&#8217;s only a face to me. No hair, no hood, no body. I know it&#8217;s there. I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s exquisite. But I never bothered to imagine what it could be. I recently picked up a book that is a collection of all three books of the north and it has a picture of her on it. It looks nothing like her. (Same thing with who I think is supposed to be Croaker and I have no idea who that other dude is.) </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s actually quite normal for people to focus their imagination on different, specific qualities in the characters they read about.</p>
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		<title>By: gchandler</title>
		<link>http://www.squaremans.com/?p=21&#038;cpage=1#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>gchandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Along the lines of titles generated to generate google heat, the original, non-compromise url for www.counterfeitgirlscoutcookies.com was www.thecausalamericansguidetothespreadofcommunisminthewest.com I never registered that domain, as I feared that it would break Internet.

To keep things fun, I also registered www.fakegsk.com as a more Geoff friendly way to get to my own website. Along those lines, I guess www.kasualcomunist.com would work for the whole communism url debacle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Along the lines of titles generated to generate google heat, the original, non-compromise url for <a href="http://www.counterfeitgirlscoutcookies.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.counterfeitgirlscoutcookies.com</a> was <a href="http://www.thecausalamericansguidetothespreadofcommunisminthewest.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.thecausalamericansguidetothespreadofcommunisminthewest.com</a> I never registered that domain, as I feared that it would break Internet.</p>
<p>To keep things fun, I also registered <a href="http://www.fakegsk.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.fakegsk.com</a> as a more Geoff friendly way to get to my own website. Along those lines, I guess <a href="http://www.kasualcomunist.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.kasualcomunist.com</a> would work for the whole communism url debacle.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://www.squaremans.com/?p=21&#038;cpage=1#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 06:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tolkien probably would have given you a coke!</description>
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		<title>By: Marius</title>
		<link>http://www.squaremans.com/?p=21&#038;cpage=1#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>Marius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 06:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never finished the LotR. After several hundred pages, I found I wasn&#039;t enjoying it in the least and realized that Mr Tolkien probably wouldn&#039;t give me a Coke for finishing it so I put it back on the shelf and never looked at it again.

So Ian McKellen is my Gandalf since the movies &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; my LotR (and I think they&#039;re too long too). But! Strictly speaking, &lt;i&gt;My&lt;/i&gt; Ian McKellen is subtly different from &lt;i&gt;your&lt;/i&gt; Ian McKellen who is again subtly different from everyone else&#039;s. So it&#039;s all good. ;~)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never finished the LotR. After several hundred pages, I found I wasn&#8217;t enjoying it in the least and realized that Mr Tolkien probably wouldn&#8217;t give me a Coke for finishing it so I put it back on the shelf and never looked at it again.</p>
<p>So Ian McKellen is my Gandalf since the movies <i>are</i> my LotR (and I think they&#8217;re too long too). But! Strictly speaking, <i>My</i> Ian McKellen is subtly different from <i>your</i> Ian McKellen who is again subtly different from everyone else&#8217;s. So it&#8217;s all good. ;~)</p>
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